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Zoffenheim New Member Posts: 13 |
I'm curious to know what everyone's opinion is about head shots using the P-32. Do you suppose that the P-32, firing standard ball or even JHP, at typical close combat ranges (but not point-blank), generates enough energy to pierce the skull? (excluding, of course, lucky shots that pass through existing orifices) Forensic pathologist KTOGers, this is your time to speak up!! ------------------ |
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LeggNet New Member Posts: 8 |
This might shed some info on the stopping power of the .32 http://www.evanmarshall.com/towert/stoppingpowerfigures.htm Rich ------------------ [This message has been edited by LeggNet (edited October 13, 2000).] |
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DougB New Member Posts: 11 |
I don't doubt that a FMJ .32 ACP could pierce the skull. I think almost any bullet will do so at close range if it hits more or less squarely. I think the problem with head shots is being able to make them. In a self-defense situation, the other person's head makes a pretty small target that is likely to be moving. Just my opinion - I have no particular expertise (except a lot of years of shooting). Doug ------------------ |
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salefelar New Member Posts: 5 |
I think the .32 would pierce a human skull if it hit it squarely. Even a .22 is capable of doing so. A rounded FMJ round might have the tendency to deflect around the skull (under the scalp) if a glancing blow. I was involved in a lawsuit (as a lawyer, not a participant) in which a person was shot at close range with a .25 in the back of the head. One bullet followed the outline of the skull under the scalp but did not pierce it but the other did pierce the skull and did some brain damage (not fatal). ------------------ |
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9mmepiphany New Member Posts: 7 |
if you plan on counting on a head shot for a reliable stop with a fmj in .32acp, you are living closer to the edge then i would venture...at much more than CQB/contact distances, penetration of the skull would depend on striking an orifice (eye,ear,nose or mouth)or flat surface (temple or soft palate) hardball striking a curved surface of the skull would be like two billard balls hitting, a jhp would at least give the bullet some bite and additional transfer of energy. at contact distances, i think there would be more effect from the expanding gases entering the body cavity. the 2 one shot .32 ACP stops that i have seen on the streets were strikes to the spinal cord/central nervous system i also saw a good body hit, R-P FMJ that went in under the ribs from the side and lodged in the back muscles. that victim was in the process of breaking down a door to get at his shooter with a baseball bat. soooooo...my choice is to focus just under the chin and go for the brain stem/spinal cord. i can hit using my walther pp or baby browning...we'll see as soon as i get my hands on a p32 these are just street observations, no big letters behind my name... ------------------ |
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duncan New Member Posts: 14 |
My doctor friends see .22lr headshots here and there in the ER here and there. If the Isreali Massad use .22lr shots to the head behind the ear, a .32 acp round should be able to penetrate the head. I'd aim for the nose that way if I'm high or low, I hit the eyes, the nose, the mouth, or the throat all of which will stop if not terminate the threat. ------------------ |
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MIKE Member Posts: 63 |
Chances are that no one on this board will ever need to shoot their gun in self defence in their entire lifetime. So why worry so much about headshots? Besides, every gun is lethal to the head most of the time. Mike ------------------ |
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Tom New Member Posts: 3 |
When I was 16 or 17, I used a .45 ACP Colt commander to defend myself against an attacking Doberman Pincher. He came out of nowhere in the middle of the woods. I instinctivly drew the Colt and fired a warning shot about a foot in front of him, just before he reached me. The loud blast and the explosion in the dirt right in front of him changed his mind, and he turned tail, and dissapeared as quickly as he had materialized. I'm glad I didn't have to shoot him, and the gun protected me. I think that experience has something to do now with my desire/need to carry. The P32 would have done the job then, and is certainly better than no gun now in a situation when it might be difficult to carry something larger. When I walk through the woods now, I still have a innate desire to carry a .45! ------------------ |
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Patrick New Member Posts: 3 |
>>When I walk through the woods now, I still have a innate desire to carry a .45!<< I'd rather shoot a bear with my P32 than my 45. The 45 would only piss the bear off more. :o) ------------------ |
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9mmepiphany New Member Posts: 7 |
i agree with patrick i'd rather have a p32 too...less weight- run and climb tree faster. i've seen some stunning failures to stops with handguns on dogs ------------------ |
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Tom New Member Posts: 3 |
Well, I'm not going to go dog hunting with it. But I don't feel that poorly armed, either. Based on my last dog attack experience, I've got a damn good chance to stop a single dog at point blank range with 8 rounds .32 silvertips. ------------------ |
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